Rik: I’m not a proponent of colloidal silver, and I don’t want to get into that on this call. I know the history of it and, for the most part, I don’t recommend its use, except in a certain population. I don’t recommend it for general health. But zeolite is not contraindicated with colloidal silver. So if they’re using colloidal silver, they don’t have to worry about wasting the zeolite or the silver.  

Question: One of the artist’s questions was about the aluminum that he works with, because he sculpts with aluminum, bronze, and other metals.  

Rik: Metal workers have been indicated in a higher risk of Alzheimer’s disease and a higher risk of early-onset Parkinson’s disease. The belief is that these heavy metals do cause neurological dysfunction, and lead to known or easily identified disease states. Certainly we know that zeolite is going to take out a lot of these heavy metals.  The last bit of research we did was that people were concerned that the aluminum in the product would get into the body, as an aluminum silicate. We proved that not only does all the aluminum in the zeolite come out, but additional aluminum was being excreted through the urine – which meant that it’s efficiently pulling out aluminum. Aluminum is about six metals down on the reactivity series, but that’s high enough that zeolite is actively pulling out aluminum from the body.   

Question: Do you have any findings regarding liquid zeolite and children with ADHD or autism? 

Rik: This was something completely new to me. I’d never studied autism. But after I received dozens of testimonials and reports about liquid zeolite's ability to increase awareness in autistic children, and increase activity in autistic children, I started looking into it. I found out that a lot of the issues had to do with deactivation of metallo-proteins. These are proteins and enzymes that use metals as co-factors. A lot of heavy metals can push away those cofactors. For example, mercury can displace magnesium in some cases, and lead or arsenic can displace zinc. So if you’re displacing these natural metals as cofactors of metallo-proteins, then everything starts to shut down. That seems to be the case with a lot of these autistic kids. We don’t know exactly which metals are so responsible. There has been a lot of research into mercury poisoning – for example, thimerosal in vaccines – for autistic children.  Regarding ADD and ADHD, there have been a lot of new studies done using PET scans and spectroscopes, identifying seven or eight distinct types of ADD and ADHD due to different cofactors. Almost all of them have to do with activation or deactivation of metallo-proteins. So again, zeolite is acting very simply to remove heavy metals, allowing the system to work more efficiently. And, in that population, we’re seeing it as an increased reactivity or increased activity for improved neurological function.  

Question: In our particular group, we’re experiencing incredible results with autistic children. We’re very excited about what this is doing for these kids. One of the things these kids are experiencing is chelation therapy.  Rik, do you want to talk about how liquid zeolite is a natural chelator? 

Rik: Absolutely. That is exactly what liquid zeolite is doing – it’s chelating or sequestering metals and removing them from the body. But it’s a much more efficient and much safer chelating agent. For example, a lot of people are using EDTA as a chelator. EDTA has a negative two charge, and it is only charge specific. It will take any plus two charge molecule out of the body. Certainly that includes lead, but it also includes calcium and magnesium. So when you’re chelating with EDTA, you have to keep adding calcium and magnesium back into the patient, and you wind up with diminishing results – where eventually all you’re chelating out is the calcium and magnesium that you keep adding back in, and you never get out all the heavy metals from the body. That is one of the negatives. Another negative is that as it chelates to the metal, the metal is still available to the environment to react. That’s why chelators can cause a lot of kidney and bladder toxicity on their way out of the body.  With zeolite, for the most part, heavy metals and toxins are absorbed into the zeolite cage and, for all practical purposes, they can no longer react with their surroundings. Zeolite is also very specific for the heavier metals. It has almost no reactivity towards calcium, magnesium, sodium, phosphorus, and the healthier elements. So it’s a really efficient, very active chelating agent that is specific not just for charge, but also for molecular size, shape, and even the structure of the molecule is important. In some cases, some molecules have something called “induced fit.” As they get closer to the zeolite, they actually change shape to be adsorbed onto the surface of the zeolite.   

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Question: This is from a woman who has severe osteoporosis: I’m taking a supplement that will stabilize strontium, calcium, and magnesium to help prevent further bone loss. I am taking liquid zeolite at the same time. Will the liquid zeolite neutralize the effect of the three elements?  

Rik: No. In fact, this particular zeolite [clinoptilolite] was used after the Chernobyl incident in Russia to remove radioactive strontium and cesium, which have a much higher reactivity towards the molecule. But non-radioactive strontium – non-ionized strontium – has very low affinity for zeolite. So, I don’t think it’s going to be an issue at all. In fact, by removing the other heavy metals, she’s probably going to get better reactivity of her protocol.  

Question: Our concern is the product removes toxins too well, as opposed to not well enough, and that there is a need for colonic therapy while taking liquid zeolite to assist with the elimination of toxins from the body. What is your opinion on the need for this therapy concurrent with taking liquid zeolite? 

Rik: It’s interesting. I’ve got to think of it in a more logical sense, because one of the big issues is compliance. I want people to be able to take something and very easily add it to their everyday usage. They can even carry a bottle around with themselves. I don’t want to say that everyone needs to go in and get colonics and other cleansings along with the liquid zeolite. But, I know that Dr. Gabriel Cousens, as well as others, has a protocol where he includes a lot of things on top of the liquid zeolite, and has incredible results with zero side effects.  What we’ve seen in highly toxic environments, with people that have multiple chemical sensitivities and a lot of issues, maybe 1 to 2% of the general population does have some detox effects. This could include a rash, could include swollen lymph, could include detox syndrome like nausea and headache – that are not directly associated to dehydration but to the fact that they’re detoxing very fast and they have all these things moving around in the body. I call it “stirring the pot.” You know, you’re stirring all this stuff up, and it’s reacting in the body. In that population, they’re certainly going to benefit from additional cleansing. I will say that the company is launching two additional products into this detox/cleansing category, which will go hand in hand with liquid zeolite and make it work even more efficiently.