Rik: At the conference in Orlando, Dr. Jim Flowers of Eno Research and Development, who was the principle investigator on the urine excretion study, will be onstage explaining the results. We used healthy students from Duke University, but we also used 20 miners from West Virginia, because that is such a timely topic. Everyone is concerned about the health of miners, the safety issues with them. It is so much in the news that, by including this population in the study, we are guaranteed publication. So it was just smart to include them. All it necessitated was an extra researcher who would drive every week or so to pick up urine in West Virginia. We’ll have those results for the conference March 17th and 18th in Orlando.  As far as the hepatitis C study goes, it is almost completed. We have three more patients that will be finishing up in two weeks. But because the company is so cognizant of the problem with talking about treating disease with the product, we won’t be sharing the viral data at the conference. We will seek publication, we’ll pursue this avenue of research, but we won’t be talking about it in public forums with the company. It’s the sort of thing where we can say that liquid zeolite stabilized immune system function and, if you want to know how, point to this article. But we can’t call it an anti-viral because that would be making a claim that can only be made about a drug.   

Question: I’m concerned about distributors claiming too much and then getting the FDA on our backs. Rik, can you give us some sense or some words we might use in trying to tell other people about liquid zeolite, so we don’t overstep our bounds and get the company in trouble?  

Rik: The easiest thing is to stick to what the company has already written. On the company website and in the company literature, all of those claims have been cleared by the FDA counsel for the company. So that is the safest thing to do.  If you start thinking about what claims you can make, try to think about structure and function claims. Liquid zeolite has the ability to remove environmental toxins from the body. It has the ability to detoxify the body. It has the ability to stabilize a healthy immune system. It has the ability to stabilize healthy pH level. That is the sort of thing you can say. If you talk about stabilizing, talk about maintaining health, those are the great ways you can talk about the product. You can always point to published research. You can point to that hepatitis C study and say, “This study was conducted on the product.” You can’t just say, “This product cures hepatitis C, and this is the proof.”  Alright, so you have to be very careful about that. Understand I work with the FDA on a daily basis with my biotech company. I am not a conspiracy theorist when it comes to government agencies. I think there are a lot of people that have their hands tied by a horrible bureaucracy and therefore can’t get the work done that they really want to do. But they do want to make sure that the public is protected from a lot of frauds, and so they watch what health claims are made in the public domain. The major job of the FDA is to write letters. I call them “the sleeping giant.” They write a lot of letters and, if those letters get ignored, the FDA goes into action.  And it’s not just the dietary supplement companies. The FDA’s after the drug companies too. They want to make sure that there are good products out there for everybody, and that the claims are legal claims to make.  

Question: Of the Alzheimer’s patients who have been helped by liquid zeolite, has it just stopped the progression of the disease, or are you seeing any signs of formal mental function? 

Rik:  We see all sorts of anecdotal evidence. But we haven’t done any studies on this, and I have do always have to have the caveat that we can’t make any claims about the treatment or prevention of disease. What I can say is that, in those disease states that seem to have as part of their causation or etiology heavy metal toxicity – for example, Alzheimer’s and aluminum – then we do see improvements with liquid zeolite. Now does it stop the disease? Does it reverse the disease? I really don’t have the evidence to support that.

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